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Gorsuch Grilled On His Cold Ruling In 'Frozen Trucker Case'

by Jana Ritter - Published: 3/22/2017

Democrats trying to derail Trump’s appointment of Neil Gorsuch to replace Antonin Scalia's seat on the Supreme Court have been focusing heavily on the “icy thorn” in his otherwise reputable record. The pesky “Case of the Frozen Trucker,” in which Gorsuch took a hard line stance against a truck driver who sued his employer after he was fired for disobeying company orders in the attempt to save his own life. 

                                                                    Gorsuch hearing

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During Monday’s appointment hearing, Sen. Dianne Feinstein recounted the case saying, “the hardhearted judge was not the kind of person who belongs on the Supreme Court.” The case called,TransAm Trucking v. Dept. of Labor came in front of Gorsuch on The Tenth Circuit. The plaintiff was truck driver, Alphonse Maddin, who was stranded on a road in Illinois one freezing night during a delivery job for his employer, TransAm. He discovered the brakes of the truck were frozen and he was running out of gas, so he called TransAm to notify them. The company told him to wait with his load until help arrived. He waited for hours in the cab of the truck, which was unheated. He called TransAm again and explained he was freezing but they again instructed him to wait in the truck. As more time passed, he began to experience symptoms of hypothermia such as slurred speech, fatigue, numbness and burning skin. He called TransAm a third time, explaining his condition and that he was worried he might literally freeze to death.

                                                                   Alphonse Maddin frozen trucker case

According to court records, TransAm told him “to either drag the trailer with its frozen brakes or stay where he was.” After three hours in the cold, Maddin couldn't wait any longer and he made his own decision to unhitch the trailer, lock it up and drive the truck in search of gas. Although Maddin’s decision was to essentially avoid freezing to death and although he later returned to the trailer to complete the job, the company fired him for violating orders. Maddin sued the company and went through a seven year process of hearings and appeals. All judges ruled in his favor, agreeing that the termination was illegal under laws that protect employees from being compelled to operate vehicles in unsafe conditions. The company appealed to the Tenth Circuit, where the judges also sided with Maddin, 2 – 1. The one judge who ruled against Maddin was Neil Gorsuch, who reasoned that the driver’s decision to unhitch the trailer and drive the trailerless truck to safety and warmth—was not an option given by his employer and therefore, did not exist under the law. The two other judges who served on the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals panel with Gorsuch disagreed and took issue with his insistent focus on the fact that the driver operated the vehicle.

                                                                  Gorsuch defends frozen trucker ruling

On Tuesday, Gorsuch was given the opportunity to respond to the criticism about his ruling on the case and he again defended his position. "The law as written said that he would be protected if he refused to operate and I think by any plain understanding he operated the vehicle," Gorsuch said. "My job isn't to write the law, Senator. It is to apply the law. And if Congress passes the law saying a trucker in those circumstances gets to choose how to operate his vehicle, I will be the first one in line to enforce it."

As the appointment hearing continued into Wednesday, Democratic senators aggressively questioned Gorsuch on issues such as abortion rights, the travel ban, torture and the Constitution’s “emoluments clause,” in efforts to put distance between the judge and Trump.


Peter Ramsey
Peter Ramsey
Your not supposed to use your trailer brakes when parking for the night when it's really cold for that very reason.
Chad Whetham
Chad Whetham
Yes. But the new drivers are told to. Because it's a safety thing. But the new drivers don't like asking for help.
James Beckman
James Beckman
BS, you always set your trailer breaks. That's some rookie crap your talking. Us experienced guys know alcohol in the air line will take care of the issue. But you keep talking that crap if it makes you feel better.
Jim Van Houtan
Jim Van Houtan
bullshit...I never set my trailer BRAKES in the winter
Kim Pridgen
Kim Pridgen
James Beckman you are an idiot
Tony Lazzara
Tony Lazzara
Retired after 35 yrs in sub zero weather I never set my trailer brakes, alcohol or not the shoes will freeze to the drums
Donald Gough
Donald Gough
You dont set your trailer brakes i the winter.. James Beckman.. youre so experinced.. alcohol will eat up air lines.. your the super trucker
James R Maxwell
James R Maxwell
If you don't drag them prior to parking, they can still freeze up even if you don't set them. Also if there's moisture in the tanks/lines, they can lock up.
Ronald Wilson
Ronald Wilson
James Beckman; Alcohol in the lines doesn't keep the shoes from freezing together! THAT'S WHY you don't set your trailer brakes, while still attached, and the tractor is running in any winter conditions.
Rex Gates
Rex Gates
Really dude, is that why the RED protection valve says "NOT FOR PARKING".
Rex Gates
Rex Gates
Hey mister experienced guy, how does alcohol in the air lines unfreeze the break shoes to the drum??
Chris Comp
Chris Comp
James Beckman you steering wheel sucking idiot .. 55 gallon drum of air brake antifreeze wont stop the shoes from freezing to the drums ya stupid jackass
Eric Wiltse
Eric Wiltse
James Beckman how does alcohol in the air lines keep your brake pads from freezing to the drum's/ disks ? Only 18 years a (rookie ) I agree with Ramsay
James W Brock Jr.
James W Brock Jr.
James Beckman you must be a rookie driver you never set the breaks on the trailer if it's below freezing because the shoes will freeze to the drum and no amount of alcohol will fix it ! If you have owned trucks you should know this !
Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams
Hell the only time I EVER set my trailer brakes is when I'm dropping my trailer!
Kathleen Squzdndmddl Allen
Kathleen Squzdndmddl Allen
So while your say that must be a rookie, seems to my 22yr driving ass must be a rookie. I never set my trailer breaks. You cant stop yhe breaks from freezing together with alcohol in the air lines, I think your the rookie. Smh
Michael Downing
Michael Downing
You're absolutely right. If you know that it's gonna be below 10 degrees, but a couple of bottles of $1.00 alcohol, pour into your brake lines. That's called preventive maintainable. I don't believe the crap about the cab not having heat, Trans Am operated newer KW's. Most newer drivers have NO common sense. This driver sounds like an entitlement idiot. I would've ruled against him, too, and I've been a driver/owner-operator for 40 years
Mark Barrett
Mark Barrett
Alcohol will only work if the lines are froze. Not if the linings are frozen to the drums like what happens when you drive in wet conditions and then apply the brakes for the night.
Mark Barrett
Mark Barrett
Your so full of shit peter.
Brett Schimmel Sr.
Brett Schimmel Sr.
Exactly!!! I live in Pa. where it doesn't even get that cold very often and I know better than to do that. A little condensation or water from the road and you ain't goin nowhere unless you got a torpedoe heater and some hours to waste.
Dennis Clay
Dennis Clay
James Beckman 1 any 1st year driver knows alcohol only prevents air line freezing the problem this guy had was shoes frozen to drums and this is why we all know you must be just out of school yourself. You never set trailer brakes after running in snow or rain when it might freeze latter. Hot drums and wet shoes will freeze togather and unless you know what to do you are screwed. Anyone who sets their trailer brakes in these conditions is a rookie or a moron.
Jerry Hansen
Jerry Hansen
James Beckman , your remark makes YOU look like the rookie. Alcohol in the air lines will help prevent freezing of the air lines, but they will do nothing to prevent brake shoes freezing to brake drums, which occurs when the truck is parked after driving in rain, sleet, snow or other conditions with sub-freezing temperatures. If you were experienced enough to have had to thaw brakes out, you would know that, so stop hollering about "rookie crap". Any professional driver who has more than one winter under their belt or gets out of the southern tier, knows not to set trailer brakes in the winter, unless absolutely necessary based on parking conditions.
John Burleson
John Burleson
James Beckman Wrongo, desk jockey!! After paying some guy to build a fire under my tandems on three seperate occasions, an old guy told me to 1) drive around slowly and apply the brakes lightly to boil off the moisture, and 2) don't set the damned brakes in the first place. If it's gonna get cold, squirt a little alcohol in the lines and pump the brakes to move it through the system. Finally, try rocking the truck gently back and forth which will break frozen brakes loose a lot of times. Bottom line is if it's my truck, I'm the captain of my truck. You might think you're the admiral, but I say where this boat floats. The driver "abandoning" his trailer might have feared for his life, but he didn't fear for his life enough to make sure he had enough damned fuel in his tank...just in case. (Winter rule of the geezer: never let the idiot fuel gauge get below half a tank--and yes, new guys, I know there's two tanks so I check 'em both. If I know I have to fuel after, oh, 1000 miles, I fuel every five hundred miles in winter.) I think Alphonse was not cuddly and loveable in the home office and they were looking for an excuse.
Johnny Schuett
Johnny Schuett
Most of Trans Am drivers are brand new to the business. No more than 7-10 days of training. I know you guys sitting on your perch of perfection came into this business with the same knowledge as you have now. This guy was probably trained by another person who had less than six months of experience. I know he should have had the knowledge of a ten year bet by some magical force like you perfect drivers but most people learn by making a mistake.
Edward John Steele
Edward John Steele
Well apparently there were guys working on his trailer I'm sure it was colder for them than it was for him sitting up in his cab
Steve Andrzejewski
Steve Andrzejewski
I've made plenty of mistakes, never sued the company for my incompetence
Tim Adami
Tim Adami
I understand that this driver went past his fuel stop prior; winter is the only time to keep tanks full as possible.
Eric Wiltse
Eric Wiltse
Based on his experience and the situation I think the driver did the right thing.
John Campbell
John Campbell
Gorsuch ruled on the law and as it states. It's not a judge's job to make laws only to follow them. So if anyone feels the driver did the right thing then blame congress for not making a law to protect the driver. Also this is why you keep a heat can or a metal coffee can in your truck with you during winter. Just saying.
Michael Downing
Michael Downing
He had NO common sense.
Albert Conner
Albert Conner
Steve Andrzejewski ,He didn't sue for as you say. He sue miss useing DOT FEDERAL and company policy rule of law about highway safety act.vThat why the company was sue!!..
Mary Jean Long
Mary Jean Long
Edward John Steele it said he was still waiting for them have you ever waited hours for road break down my concern is why was there no heat in the truck.
Johnny Schuett
Johnny Schuett
Mary Jean Long their trucks only idle 5 minutes. I bet everything in the apu was gelling. This is probably a very new driver who got no real training.
Bob Beauchamp
Bob Beauchamp
It has nothing to do with Trump!He wasn't prepared.tjats why we call them rookies&wheel holders
Bob Beauchamp
Bob Beauchamp
I also had my trailer breaks freeze on me.I used a flare to thaw em out.but low on fuel.....NEVER IN WINTER.
Steve Andrzejewski
Steve Andrzejewski
Trans am will run you close to empty before you fill in some cases, they dictate where and when you get gas. Trust me I know
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
No they don't dictate anything! Be a driver and stand up! I need fuel or this truck isn't going anywhere! What are they going to do, fire you? It appears they do that anyway, so stand up and tell them!
Steve Andrzejewski
Steve Andrzejewski
I've never had an issue, I'm just saying it happens sometimes
Bob Beauchamp
Bob Beauchamp
I was always told "what ever it takes to be safe,do it"by more than one boss.
Andrew Gohsman
Andrew Gohsman
Read the statement in full. His trailer brakes froze....maintenance? APU quit......maintenance? Cold winter low on fuel...driver/coordinator He said low fuel but didn't say it stopped running. He drove away.....low fuel? Company said drag it off the highway. I 88 has service plazas with heat. I suspect the driver told a fancy story. Both company and driver are not doing their jobs
Rod McDonald
Rod McDonald
Alcohol in the lines is common knowledge as company policies of "Approved fuel stop only" and Driver dropped the ball and almost paid with his life for it. All should Read the whole story online.
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
Brakes freezing is not a maintenance issue most the time, it is a water issue. APU quit is possible not a maintenance issue either. Just like the main engine, the driver has responsibility to the APU engine also. There is no such thing as low fuel, the truck either has fuel or it doesn't. Give me 1/8 tank and I'll drive over a hundred miles or let it run for three days.
Raymond Yoder
Raymond Yoder
Pulling over on the side of the road for no reason. Illegal. Low fuel means you go to a fuel stop not pull over on the shoulder. He had enough fuel to get somewhere aparently
Ronald Wilson
Ronald Wilson
Rod McDonald News Flash! Newer Trailers recommend No Alcohol Treatment, as it ruins the rubber and plastic O - rings, causing more problems. We would drain the Primary and Secondary Air Tanks, then put the newer type of Brake line antifreeze in the tanks, that were treated with a WD-40 type lubricant.
Kathleen Squzdndmddl Allen
Kathleen Squzdndmddl Allen
Raymond Yoder I was wondering that. If he was able to go get fuel after he disconnected he could have kept going nefote he pulled over. IJS
Dennis Clay
Dennis Clay
Rod McDonald brakes were frozen to drums not air lines alcohol would not have helped . I have been driving for over 35 yrs and only one time have I ever used alcohol in air lines these trucks now with air dryers makes no need never had air line freeze up but have made the mistake of setting trailer in freezing wet conditions a thing that only happens once.
Tom Lord
Tom Lord
It is simple. There is right, there is wrong, and there is the law. He made the right call based on the law. It sucks for that driver but the law is the law. Quite frankly if I worked there I would have quit the next day after hearing about this. I know the driver was an idiot for letting his fuel get so low but Trans Am put their load ahead of their drivers health and safety. I won't knowingly work for a company like that.
Joseph Russo
Joseph Russo
I've been in the business for 25 years had my trailer brakes freeze up 1 time, and it didn't take long to get going. Word of advice when driving in cold weather conditions, don't run low on fuel, make sure your heater works properly before your run, ie, PRETRIP, be prepared to fix the problem yourself without being a whiny ass!
James Beckman
James Beckman
These new guys think pre trip means sitting in the truck for 15 minutes.
Tony Filla
Tony Filla
I started in 1999...my first OTR job was driving for small 10 truck fleet...each truck the boss put a tool box with basic hand tools extra lights etc...his attitude figure it out before calling the boss
Tony Filla
Tony Filla
I carry a BFH plumbers torch (extra fuel bottle) and basic hand tools Makes life a hell of a lot easier when a brakes frozen
Kirk Righetti
Kirk Righetti
Honestly I would have done the same thing as the driver. The judge literally sided on the side of the law...which he does on every case. He has stated many times that he doesn't make the laws he just enforces them. Instead of attacking this judge maybe make laws that are sustaining. And if the judge would have ruled on sympathy he would be expected to do so every time and wouldn't be a good judge. I blame the company more than anyone here. Companies like this are to big for themselves, they are unable or unwilling to get someone to this driver in a decent amount of time. This type of company rather kill the driver because the load is more important. Drivers are replaceable but the load cost money...that is the mentality of these corporate trucking companies. If anything these companies need to be held more accountable, for training, how they treat the driver. I myself feel that there is no load worth dieing for and if a company puts me in danger for fear of something happening to their load, I'm sorry but I will leave, but secure the load with locks, but I'm not dieing. To many times these companies don't care, if you die they will just pay your family off and keep rolling. Companies like this should not be able to pay out of court and should be made very public as to what they are doin.
Steve Andrzejewski
Steve Andrzejewski
This is not how Trans am works, sounds more like driver incompetents to me. I've been here a year, granted that don't make me an expert but all this could have been avoided if he stopped for gas when he was suppose to
Dawn Banach
Dawn Banach
EXCALLY!! The judge FOLLOWED the law. If we don't like the laws we need to change them. People make laws about trucking that have no idea what it's like out there.
Larry Peterson
Larry Peterson
Gas??
Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams
Steve that's exactly how TransAm operates! It's a worthless company and as soon as I saw how they treat their drivers, I quit that company. Took about 2 months. If anyone ever asks about them, I do anything in my power to convince them not to work there. The don't give a flying fuck about their drivers.
Steve Andrzejewski
Steve Andrzejewski
Like I said been here a year now and no issues with them. They treat me pretty well. My only issue is the pay kinda sucks
Ray McLean
Ray McLean
He refused to operate the vehicle as per company instructions. He disconnected the trailer. There's a grey area and 2 judges disagreed with Gorsuch.
Jeff Yoder
Jeff Yoder
A hammer will fix those frozen brakes and when my truck gets close to empty, I can run another 200 miles before I have to worry. Any decent driver knows that you dont run low on fuel when its that cold. I think firing him was wrong but it doesnt erase the facts. Companies have policies for a reason as laws have a reason. It sounds to me like the judge was following the written law which is what a judge is suppose to do
Sue Domenico
Sue Domenico
If they tell him wher to fuel and how many gallons to put in May not be his fault
James Fish
James Fish
^^^that's what is was, reading the lawsuit paperwork.... However, the company was ordered to reinstate him, and owed him back pay and such
Darrin Dowell
Darrin Dowell
I see the driver's lawsuit as valid and glad he prevailed. BUT, another reason why the damned politicians need to stay out of the trucking business where they are both ignorant and Stupid... our rigs don't use gas!
Carol Winkler
Carol Winkler
Agree, everytime I heard them say "the driver ran out of gas" I just wanted to scream. They could have said "diesel that could gell in -14 degree temps."
Kowalski Joiner
Kowalski Joiner
Absolutely Mr Darrin! I agree
Carol Renfroe Schneider
Carol Renfroe Schneider
There's stuff to treat the tanks #1 #2 I'm sure he could have found a place to get into before getting so low on fuel. #3 There's phones in every business make a call before running low. #4 illegal to park on the shoulder except in an emergency..being stupid isn't an emergency. #5 I'm sure it didn't drop to -14 instantly did he not notice the heat not working? #6 the judges who sided with him are as stupid as he is. #7 truck stop books tell where every stop is #8 learn to read a map to go,with #7 #9 didn't just get in the truck that day should know how far on a tank of fuel #10 being totally stupid is no defense
Eric J Foster
Eric J Foster
That's not politics. That's a janitor who broke into the editors office. :)
Rod McDonald
Rod McDonald
P.s. layed up on Crutches now so I took the time to Watch 8.5 hours of it. Then I take the time to Research each of accusations, I Assure You all.... This is the Honest Constitutional Man of Honor and integrity. As he said, a good judge could Never feel good about all judgment or they are Not a good judge. Legislatures Made Law, Not alway correctly.
Raymond Yoder
Raymond Yoder
I don't think that Driver should have gotten one penny. I don't like big companies. Why I work for myself. But I followed the story. He did everything wrong. First of if you are so cold that your bottom half of your body is numb, and your speech is slurred. how the fuck are you going to be able to disconnect a trailer and get back in the rig
Johnny Cavalry
Johnny Cavalry
I kept different things in my truck for all types of situations. If you don't have any common sense you're not going to be able to make it in the trucking industry.
Danny Bullen
Danny Bullen
You're running the truck just stay warm he is low on fuel why did was he low on fuel you're never low on fuel in the winter time you never set your trailer brakes in the winter time on the side of the road and all he had to do is go out and use a hammer on the brakes evidently no one told him to do that so he was not trained properly should have gotten fired no the dispatcher should have done something different also I've seen over the years now since I've been driving for 26 years that the new drivers nowadays are not being trained properly and a lot of them are foreign drivers and they don't care if they run somebody over it's pretty sad the trucking industry is no longer what it used to be too many big companies get money from the government to train drivers and they're not doing it correctly
James Fish
James Fish
Approved fuel stops only with a lot of those companies.
James Beckman
James Beckman
Yep, I know a driver that's dead cause he did that crap your talking. He didn't set the trailer breaks and load pulled the truck ( on snow & ice) off the road. Rolled the truck over a 40ft bank and killed him. Always set the breaks. That some rookie crap. And ya don't need a hammer, just some rubbing alcohol.
Larry Peterson
Larry Peterson
Carry wheel chocks
Chris Comp
Chris Comp
James Beckman ONCE AGAIN YOU FUCKWIT NON DRIVING PILE OF SHIT.. ALCOHOL WILL NEVER KEEP SHOES FROM FREEZING TO THE DRUM YOU ARE JUST ABOUT ONE OF THE STUPIDEST SONSABITCHES I EVER READ REPLYS FROM ..
Michael Shane Stanton
Michael Shane Stanton
The judge rule according to the law. Hey, the driver didn't know anything, which is typical, and Trucking company office personal are as dumb as a box of rocks, but... The law is the law.
Monty Stout
Monty Stout
If the driver left a secure parking facility with his trailer brakes locked up and dropped the trailer out on the highway which would be a hazard and would make that company liable, then I would fire his ass too!!! He for one should have remained parked, two added coolant or idled his engine higher or covered his radiator, and three prolly find a different occupation or go back to where ever he came from!!! He damn sure ain't no truckdriver!!! Judge Gorsuch is a damn fine man and should have done what he did!!!
James R Maxwell
James R Maxwell
One case doesn't make a career and he ruled on the letter of law, not the spirit of the law. I'm glad the others found in the driver's favor. Great free advertisement for Trans Am. "You can watch free Direct TV while you freeze to death."
Bill Croysdill
Bill Croysdill
I'm glad he won but also see the logic in what he ruled. Many decisions are hard. Gorsuch also told congress they should fix the law so it covers instances like that. He said the current law is narrowly written. Blame congress and not the judge.
Gary Teague
Gary Teague
That driver was an idiot. He put himself in that situation. The company knew it. He also had two means of heating the truck. He just didn't use common sense. The company had a legitimate reason for firing the driver.
James Fish
James Fish
APU also went out. Low on fuel, because approved fuel stops only
Steve Andrzejewski
Steve Andrzejewski
James if you read the report the driver missed his approved fuel stop. It's the DRIVERS fault he had no fuel
Gary Teague
Gary Teague
All of this was the drivers failure. 17 years ago TransAm had a very good training dept. I'm surprised they let this guy get past.
Gary Teague
Gary Teague
All of this was the drivers failure. 17 years ago TransAm had a very good training dept. I'm surprised they let this guy get past.
Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams
Gary I went through TransAm training 2 years ago... it's not enough. New, fresh out of school drivers, are at the terminal for 5 days for final classroom work and working on the backing pad, then they go out with a trainer for 11 days...... this training worked for me because I'm not an idiot and I know how to drive. But honestly, what can a brand new driver really learn in 11 days over the road with a trainer???
Gary Teague
Gary Teague
Daniel, I remember two things that the old drivers told me from training, fill your tank at half in the winter. And never set your trailer tandems unless the road was complete dry all day. Even then your better off not setting them at all. But I get what your saying. The argument here is nothing more than was it the drivers fault he was fired. Yes. It was all driver error to the conditions. The company did have a right. I don't know how these companies are assigning fuel stops. I've never had a company do that. It seems stupid to me.
Johnny Schuett
Johnny Schuett
Ok. Some people aren't understanding what I originally wrote. So let's do this over. So you go through a CDL school. Now that you got your CDL you go to Trans Am where you are "trained" by someone who probably has less than 6 months of experience. More than likely was more interested in team driving right out of the terminal than training you. Why? Cause that person is leasing and owes the company money at this point. "Training" last 7-10 days. In most cases the trainee just drives straight on an interstate. Since the trainer is in team mode there is no one to ask questions. The trainer does almost every single back, handles the routing, paperwork and everything else. The trainee just drives straight down an interstate and is told to follow the GPS. I know this cause I worked for Trans Am and I trained but I refused team loads cause it didn't allow time to help these new drivers but this is what was reported to me after they returned. Now I know that you perfect drivers started day one with the same knowledge as you have today. You knew to not set your trailer brake, knew about how to fuel and probably knew everything but most people don't have this knowledge. Most take time to accumulate this knowledge it's called experience. Before you judge this person remember the odds are that he went through exactly what I just described. I'm not saying this is what his experience was but I would like to know the whole background of this person before I would judge him. I've made mistakes and understand when others do to. I'm not perfect and have never met a person who was. This person could have have done a lot of things differently as all you with experience know but odds are he probably didn't know most of what experienced drivers would do cause no one taught him or told him to do this. Read the story he contacted the company several times and not once was it suggested for him to go under the trailer and tap on the brakes with a hammer to break the ice so he could get moving. He was sitting for hours waiting for help and made several phone calls. Trans Am trucks are set to idle for 5 minutes, as of 2015 they changed that to being under a certain temp so the truck could idle longer but before only 5 minutes. Sometimes Trans Ams fuel routing leaves a lot to be desired. Sometimes wrong exits or just no truck stop at the exit designated. Like I wrote I know there are some here that knew everything on day one but for the vast majority of us who had to learn and gain experience this is a lot to learn.
Tony Lazzara
Tony Lazzara
When it's sub zero, , you don't stop anywhere unless there a heated bldng nearby, and in subzero weather expecting a mechanic in an hour is stupid , they are busy , I've waited as long as 8 hrs in bad whether for a mechanic and that was after my boss called his regular guy and 3 other shops,
Jeff Lovan
Jeff Lovan
Y'all remember the whit driver who open a Walmart trailer load fell on him and hurt him severely,I don't think he got jack💩 and he deserved to be compensated. Hence the reason wm has roll up doors now, and the don't load em full.
Eric J Foster
Eric J Foster
Huh...... "no heat" but truck was still driveable. Sounds like Gorsuch understands the bullshit stories told to dispatch and safety when a driver is inconvenienced and doesn't get his way.
Merle Niehaus
Merle Niehaus
This whole issue is stupid,,any employer that orders you to endanger your life,,,????, tell the Morron to go fist pump himself ,,it's called a back bone,,,,1st day,or 30yrs on job
Keith Conder
Keith Conder
Yeah, his MINORITY opinion on the matter was directly related to the law itself which prohibited movement of the truck. He didn't change the ruling itself which still sided with the driver.
Brandon Thomas
Brandon Thomas
So everyone is up in arms that he held up to the word of Law. How does this make him a bad judge? He has a tough job. I'm sure he wanted to rule on the side of the driver. But he takes he's job seriously. He's the kind of judge I would want on the high court. He rules on the letter of the law and not feelings or personal beliefs.
George Stentiford
George Stentiford
OK I have had a fuel level that's to low for the Apulia to draw from. But enough to run truck on. If his brakes froze up then let's look at it this way. Was he stopped for the nite? Did he apply his brakes and it was so cold that they froze? Did he stop for a load temperature check. Wichita in some companies required. None of us where there. His heat was probably fine except because he was sitting with truck running but not moving. Was not generating heat. And we all know some companies have set fuel stops. Did any ever think his fuel stop was in front of him. It states that he sat for hours in between his 3 phone calls. Too many unanswered questions. None of us will ever know exactly what the full true story is.
Susan Greenwood Miller
Susan Greenwood Miller
The judge was following the written law, the judge explained it yesterday!
Chris Petty
Chris Petty
Although I have great compassion for what this driver went through and so did the judge the judge ruled according to the law not according to a motion that's what people are afraid of with this guy that he's going to rule according to the Constitution and not his emotion.
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
I learned that stuff in truck driving school and a trainer added to it. The driver made a mistake and got caught on it. And the one justice that has ruled on facts and common sense not feelings!
Jimmie Buster Sr.
Jimmie Buster Sr.
most of this is blamed on the comppany when the problem is with dispatch being a retired truck driverr tthey want you too run over hours anything breaking the law as long as the load gets their had dispather at the former sunflower carriers because i shut down and went too sleep i was out of hourrs
Brad Nitzh
Brad Nitzh
Drivers was not prepared for winter. Got to be ready for this stuff. He made a choice, and got fired for it. Plain and simple if you do A then B will happen
Laure Simpson
Laure Simpson
Bad deal for this driver. Lesson learned here is to not drive for Trans Am. Steer clear drivers, lots of better options out there.
Jeff Lovan
Jeff Lovan
Driver is a complete fuck up a-z in a list of top10 things every driver should know don't run low on fuel in the winter Be prepared in the winter Don't set the trl brakes in the winter
Keith Reynolds
Keith Reynolds
As many driving jobs are out here, do not know why the driver did not move on, but to make a point, let's face it, trucking companies can treat you like a piece of crap also!!! as if you are not one of the Human Race!!! Trust me I know from experience!!! Some of the companies can be very Un Christian in structure!!!! But one day, we all going to face GO-!!! and I can think of two of them that is still in business will have to stand for their evil they personally inflicted on me!!! Love Capitalism, but it does show you the greed with people peoples hearts!!!
Dawn Banach
Dawn Banach
He could start the truck to leave the trailer. We don't know the whole circumstances. Maybe the one judge knows something about truck driving. Why didn't he idle his truck to keep warm? Where was he? He wasn't frozen enough to get out and drop the trailer. Didn't he take any winter wear? I see guys fueling their trucks in tee-shirt and shorts in the blowing cold snow and I am almost in a snow suit. In the winter I wear 4 to 5 shirts and 3 to 4 pairs of pants at a time to stay warm. I carry as much emergency supplies as possible if I break down. Couldn't he have called a tow truck? I just don't know the whole story. I think this guy was brought out of the woodwork to try to cause trouble for the nominee. Maybe he was hauling a several million dollar load or hazardous materials and couldn't leave the load unattended. Maybe he only brought summer wear in a truck that serves all 48 states. We just don't have all the details or the companies side. What if when the truck repair truck showed up and there wasn't a tractor or a driver just a trailer so they couldn't help the driver and left. My hubby's truck froze up and it shut down beside the road on a major interstate road that got shut down because the weather was so cold with zero visibility he was freezing in the truck as it would not start. He kept in contact with the office. I called him 12 hours after his breakdown. He said he was under every blanket, he had the snow pants on I forced him to take he had all the socks on his feet and boots and all his water froze in the truck solid. He said he could not feel most of his body. I called his company and told them to get him help immediately because if he died I would sue them and own the company. It probably costed them a pretty penny to rescue him, as he couldn't hardly even walk when they got to him they had to go in the truck to get him out. He didn't have the option of starting his truck. He was driving with chemicals in his tank to keep his fuel from freezing but it was so cold it did anyways. It had gotten down to 0 visibility and the road impassable. And his engine just shut down. So we don't know the whole story on this. Maybe he only had warm weather clothes, no blankets, nothing to prepare him for emergencies. Also maybe they had constant problems with this driver and this was the last straw.
Justin Bozek
Justin Bozek
The driver was low on fuel in freezing temperatures. I learned that day one of driver orientation you never allow your truck to get that low on fuel. The drivers funkier was not working period That's a simple call the safety department. If the driver felt unsafe driving in those conditions then why was he driving in those conditions in the first place? If he was so cold in the truck that he could not wait just two hours for a repair truck to get to him what are you had no problem getting out of the truck in freezing conditions disconnecting from the trailer and abandoning the load on the highway so that he could drive his truck that had no fuel to a truck stop? The company cannot force you to drive in bad weather conditions but you never abandon your load. If the weather was so bad he did not feel safe driving then why did he disconnect from his trailer and drive his truck? I don't want a guy like that driving out here with us. Do you? 90% of all the people they put in school should not be driving a commercial truck in the first place. we cannot always side with the worker and go against the company because in this case that driver was a freaking idiot and I do not want him on the road operating a commercial vehicle threatening the lives and safety of other drivers
Sue Domenico
Sue Domenico
How new of a driver was he. How much training did he get. What did his trainer teach or not teach. Some companies have fuel route to follow. Can only fuel where they tell you and how much. Bad break for him. We all have to learn
Ron McClain
Ron McClain
So, now THIS sight is getting into politics, and in the side of Schumer, Pelosi, and the rest if the DC vermin. Sad. I assumed at least HERE we could be free of the politicsl bullshit.
Griff Ace
Griff Ace
Oh so your side is better Listen to yourself.lol
Ron McClain
Ron McClain
Grow up dude. They are all full of crap. I know you dont want to face it, but there is more to life than politics. I would have hoped this group would realize that, instead of climbing into the DC beltway rathole.
Thomas Steven Webb
Thomas Steven Webb
Well for starters he should have gotten that low on fuel. Secondly, all Trans Am trucks have auxillary power units on them which only uses about 1/10 of a gallon of fuel per hour. I think the driver was angry for having to wait. But in his defense. 3 hours was a stupid amount of time. He should have stayed with his load though!
John King
John King
They guy moved his truck with frozen brakes. When he called in the man in office would have said do you have a hammer. Someone would have gave him advice! Get on your CB someone would have helped.
James Fish
James Fish
The trailer brakes were frozen, not truck....Dispatch kept telling him to wait
Gail Barie
Gail Barie
Lets take a look at the idling laws. 5 minutes in some states. Not all trucks are equipped with heaters or that "certified" anti pollution system. If you have an animal in the truck you can legally idle but if not you can't. Since when is a humans warmth not as important as an animal. Some of these laws are just plainly ignorant. I carry tools with me so I could try and release the brakes, but if trained properly, you don't trailer brakes till they have cooled or u do take a chance of them freezing up. And as for fuel u company drivers know dispatch or load planners send you where and when to fuel. I've had some bad dispatchers in my days, but I ain't freezong to death for no one.
John Spencer
John Spencer
I would've been on the phone every 10 minutes till they done something about it... Some of these new drivers don't have a backbone to tell the damn dispatcher how it going to be. In most situations you don't ask them you tell them how it's going to be and if there is a problem then it's time to work somewhere else.
Gail Daugherty
Gail Daugherty
He could have called 911.....Illinois State Police would have got this taken care of Pronto
Jeff Wright
Jeff Wright
He was completely right to to leave his trailer. The heater didn't work and it was below zero. Damn id do the same thing. I thought that company was better then that. When I was driving national carriers was a good place. I guess its this modern world all about the $$$$$$$
Carol Renfroe Schneider
Carol Renfroe Schneider
There's stuff to treat the tanks #1 #2 I'm sure he could have found a place to get into before getting so low on fuel. #3 There's phones in every business make a call before running low. #4 illegal to park on the shoulder except in an emergency..being stupid isn't an emergency. #5 I'm sure it didn't drop to -14 instantly did he not notice the heat not working? #6 the judges who sided with him are as stupid as he is. #7 truck stop books tell where every stop is #8 learn to read a map to go,with #7 #9 didn't just get in the truck that day should know how far on a tank of fuel #10 being totally stupid is no defense
Roger Whitt
Roger Whitt
This guy should not be on the bench of any court. If he thinks a load is more important than a life.
Chad Whetham
Chad Whetham
It's plain and simple. The damn company needs to be shut down. If money comes before drivers well being. Then company should not of fired him. Plus they should have gotten the heater fixed at the next dealer.
Andrew Gohsman
Andrew Gohsman
The driver did not tell the entire story. He did not run out of fuel hence no heat. He was also told to drag the frozen wagon. I 88 has toll plazas. He would have had access to heat IF the truck had quit.
Bill Burnett
Bill Burnett
I drive in the Midwest all winter long and I have every had that probably low on fuel he should have ever been driving a truck
Chad Whetham
Chad Whetham
But one question I have is. Why didn't the dispatcher transfer the call over to the shop foreman and have him tell the driver how to get the brakes loose. Don't care if he don't know. Got to learn it some time.
Andrew Gohsman
Andrew Gohsman
By maintenance I mean water in the system means the air drier needs service.having shopped for used APUs I noticed that they get poor care
Rod McDonald
Rod McDonald
Fact of the Matter is: He did indeed make the Correct call According to the Legislative branch who wrote the "Law". Another words He is a Man of Pure Rule of Law and Our Constitution! Period! As a Driver I would have NEVER put myself in that situation! ! Read the whole thing online. Company policies almost killed this driver!! "Approved fuel stop"almost Killed him. As a Judge he takes an Oath to our Constitution and Dedicated his Life to it. We Need Legislative branch to do the SAME!! Gorsuch is a Man of American Law and accountability and our Constitution. He understands "Natural Man" and "Corporation person". Many do Not.
Kelly Koepnick
Kelly Koepnick
A law is still a law..... had he not set his trailer brakes he would of still been truckin
Michael Stout
Michael Stout
Automatic transmissions was the first thing to ruined this industry.............
Robert Hall
Robert Hall
He wasn't too frozen to get out and drop the trailer...
Daniel Goble
Daniel Goble
What we have here is a great example of a steering wheel holder that is in no way prepared to be a truck driver
Larry Swisher
Larry Swisher
Heard this on Sirius the other day,. Was sitting on burn,. Brakes froze,. Called company,. Waited 3 hrs,. Dropped TRL & bobtailed to Trk stop to get fuel,. Dispatch told him to drag the TRL,. Um,. OK Mr Dispatcher
Derril Salter
Derril Salter
I can't figure out why he was sitting in the cold, if he had fuel to drop the trailer and bobtail out to get some.
James Beckman
James Beckman
Trailer breaks were frozen and did know how to get them loose. Didn't you read it?
Derril Salter
Derril Salter
The trailer brakes had nothing to do with setting the engine above idle with the heater running to stay warm. Remember, he had enough fuel to drop the trailer and bobtailed out looking for some. Most tractors burn about a gallon an hour to run just above idle to keep the oil pressure up.
Jim Van Houtan
Jim Van Houtan
Trans Am is a terrible company, and it's BRAKES...not breaks...geez
Michael Purtee
Michael Purtee
Sounds like that fucker needs to spend a night in a freezing truck
David Driver
David Driver
Drivers mistake. He followed the letter of the law. I stand behind gorsuch.
Griff Ace
Griff Ace
Well he took pics in a tractor th I should week.he must be a driver now. Not
Ronald Hill
Ronald Hill
Trans am don't care about their drivers just money that's it period
Saundra Lucas
Saundra Lucas
I noticed that CNN reported that the driver was in sub zero temperatures but the driver himself said that it was 27 degrees
Richard Young
Richard Young
The judge only looked at the law and that's what he based his decision on
Clark W Reed
Clark W Reed
I am sure there are more facts than those listed in this story.
Ray McLean
Ray McLean
Why debate whether the trucker set his brakes or not, the real issue is Gorsuch's decision. He decided the corporations decision to tell the driver to freeze to death is not relevant.
Jonathan Buza
Jonathan Buza
I think Gorsuch ruled on the law not on his feelings.
Bill Croysdill
Bill Croysdill
What I was wondering is why he didn't whack the drums with a hammer to lbreak them loose.
Rex Gates
Rex Gates
Why do drivers need to weigh in on this? The driver won his case.
Ronald Hill
Ronald Hill
trans am puts money ahead of driver safety bottom line they don't give a shit about us period
Ann Scarborough
Ann Scarborough
Why wasn't his truck heated inside if hr was in that climate?
John Henderson
John Henderson
So what? Big deal! Feinstein is just another liberal democrat ticked off cause their judge Garland didn't get a hearing and their candidate Crooked Hillary lost the election. Boo Hoo. Suck it up and GET OVER IT! The trucker still won the law suit. I would have done the same thing. Their are a lot of better driving jobs available other than TransAm!!
George Stentiford
George Stentiford
Also trans-am fired him for taking action. Imagine if he had died.
Darlene Farley
Darlene Farley
The driver was told, if he left he was fired. The judge followed the law in the trial, not the pity party.
Ed Simon
Ed Simon
Yea! This does not bode well for the regular guy workin!
Mike Barnes
Mike Barnes
He would not of froze. To death his trailer wheels froze up. And he was to lazy or to stupid to. A. Get under trailer beat the breaks with a hammer...B put alcohol in air lines at compressor. Let it do its job. He chose to drop trailer bob tail to truck stop. Have company send some one.
Jerry Green
Jerry Green
Not once did it say he could not run truck to stay warm so he takes off with the tractor to find fuel so I don't want hear about him freezing he did disobey company orders by unhooking the trailer and left trailer unattended so I would like to know why thought he could sue them
Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams
Sounds like a driver should never drop his load on the side of the highway
Delbert Caviness
Delbert Caviness
I would run the truck if they fire me I'd get lawyer in on to
John Eugene Duff
John Eugene Duff
you cant idle in california unless you have a dog in truck. CARB RULE
Matt Olesen
Matt Olesen
And that is why there is no "California" in my map book!
Brian Wilson
Brian Wilson

Shawn Skinner
Shawn Skinner
THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS TRANS AM SHOULD HAVE HAD A MOBILE MECHANIC OR A WRECKER OUT TO THAT DRIVER A.S.AP. THAT SIMPLE.
Randy Hunter
Randy Hunter
Plenty of blame to go around here.
Guy Devinney
Guy Devinney
I get cold? That truck stays running.. PERIOD!
Wally Taylor
Wally Taylor
Why did he leave where he was parked in the frist place
Chris Schultz
Chris Schultz
Getting fired from Trans Am would be a blessing.
Kim Pridgen
Kim Pridgen
How can we weigh in when we dont have all the evidence ?
Ron Huttsell
Ron Huttsell
Try again with the facts. It was THREE JUDGES!
Robert Hall
Robert Hall
I seriously doubt he was freezing to death.
James Beckman
James Beckman
Not freezing like up in Alaska. .. LoL
Joe Wilshire
Joe Wilshire
It dont matter
James G McCreight
James G McCreight
Excellent work Trump
Danny Bullen
Danny Bullen
This happened way before Trump came into office so get off your Trump train grow up
James G McCreight
James G McCreight
I'm far from serious. Trains already wrecked, we're all just waiting for the implosion now
James Beckman
James Beckman
Danny Bullen. Did you seriously not read the article??? It starts out talking about the dems against Trumps appointment of... WOW
Jeff Harker
Jeff Harker
Drop the airline and roll
Kenny Harman
Kenny Harman
What an ass no moral compasion no job in goverment
Ken Horejsi
Ken Horejsi
Judge Gorsuch doesn't write the laws.
Kathi Holt
Kathi Holt
Supreme Court judge prospect with no common sense? Not good!
Timothy Schorer
Timothy Schorer
Jeff Usher