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Congress Puts Brakes On HOS Rules for Truck Drivers

by Jana Ritter - Published: 12/12/2016

Before Trump has even taken office, trucking industry reps are already celebrating their first triumphant victory after Republican lawmakers effectively blocked Obama's federal  HOS rules aimed at keeping tired truck drivers off the roads.

                                                             Congress rolls back HOS rules

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Republicans added a provision to a must-pass government-spending bill, which effectively suspends regulations issued by the Obama administration requiring truckers to take two nights off the job if they take only the minimum break before starting a new workweek. In July 2013, the Obama Administration restricted the use of the restart to only once every 168 hours and required that the restart period include two overnight stretches between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. The industry objected and argued that the impact of these changes would increase early morning traffic congestion and result in more crashes. The new regulations were then suspended in 2014 pending the results of a Department of Transportation study.
“These rules, put forward based on a very limited laboratory sleep study, could have had serious negative safety impacts,” said ATA President and CEO Chris Spear. “The restart is an important tool for drivers, not to maximize driving time, but to have the flexibility to maximize off-duty time and time at home, and we are pleased that drivers will continue to have unrestricted access to it.”

The ATA said they are pleased with Congress for passing this Continuing Resolution, and fixing the language to permanently fix the hours-of-service restart. Spears says the language in the C.R. should, restore the restart rules to what they were before July 2013. “Thanks to hard work by Congressional leaders of both parties and in both chambers, we are one step closer to having an hours-of-service restart rule that makes sense and puts safety first.” President Obama is now is expected to sign the provision into law.

Many truck drivers such as George Lafferty are happy about the news as well.

“I don’t see how the government can tell you when to sleep and when not to,” said Lafferty. “A driver should know when he’s fatigued or not,” he said. “If you’re fatigued, take a half-hour, hour nap.” However, there are other drivers such as Bill Varnado who says he prefers the mandated sleep requirements because it helps to ensure drivers are well rested and protected from companies that often pressure drivers to stay on the road when they’re tired.

Safety advocates are concerned that this is only the start of what’s to come when the Republicans take office in January. “Unfortunately, it’s going to be an open season on safety in this coming Congress,” warns Jim Hall, who was chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board during the Clinton administration.

Safety advocate Joan Claybrook also fears that shippers and segments of the trucking industry will also begin pushing for increasing the weight limit on trucks to more than 90,000 pounds and increasing the length of individual trailers in double-trailer combinations from 28 feet to 33 feet. “It’s going to be very tough because the companies really care about the cost. They don’t care about the safety no matter what they say,” says Claybrook.


Mike Howerton
Mike Howerton
Wow...read this twice.. most of it is wrong.. they got rid of the 1am to 5am a few years ago.. and the rest of the story is all over the place... js
Trucking Unlimited
Trucking Unlimited
The article has been edited to better clarify that the 1-5am rule has been suspended since 2014.
Robin S Voyage
Robin S Voyage
Could someone please EDIT this article? Reading it and having to stop at every mistake is maddening.
Trucking Unlimited
Trucking Unlimited
The article has been edited.
Gerald Leddin
Gerald Leddin
More attention needs to be put on Shippers and Receivers, they're the ones who eat up drivers HOS. also there need to be federal lews requiring states to provide more parking areas for drivers to take a rest safely..
Will N Brent Brewer
Will N Brent Brewer
I agree with your statement.... I've lost count of rest areas that are closed and parking areas closed across the us... then u end up on an exit or on ramp which is posted no parking... not enough truckstops across the US u see a lot of them closed down... shippers and receivers need to be held accountable more (I love walking in for a pickup and seeing papers hanging stating they are not responsible for weight of load) OK I'm not loading this truck... I'm not sure of the weight yet because I do not even have the paperwork yet.... it's a joke... it's always put on the driver which is getting to be tiring....
Brett Campbell
Brett Campbell
They need to put everything back like it was twenty years ago when it was still fun. Leave the logs paper. Make it where you can split your sleeper birth. And all the sissies that can't handle a real trucking job get the hell out of it. Trucking is the most government regulated industry in operation. Even more so than aviation. I know when I'm tired. I don't need a computer telling me when it thinks I need to sleep or stop and take a thirty minute break. Regs are bullshit
Anthony Wortham
Anthony Wortham
I think the 14hr clock is ridiculous because now drivers push their self because they can't stop the clock for a 2 hr nap and it gets drivers that normally use too take a nap when needed have to keep going our lose money.
Mike Kemper
Mike Kemper
I can stop my clock for two hours with no problem, granted it's within the 14 hour clock, but it's still easy to do
Joshua Carlton
Joshua Carlton
Mike Kemper, Once the 14 begins, there is only 2 ways to stop it. 8 consecutive hrs in the sleeper will extend the 14. 10 consecutive hrs off duty or in combination with 8 consecutive hrs in the sleeper will restart the clock.
Manuel Ortega
Manuel Ortega
It's a 70 hour limit not 75 and the restart is 34 hours the 2 consecutive 1-5am periods required to be within the 34 hour restart , sometimes making the restart up to 48 hors long depending on when you went off duty for your restart.
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
I have no idea where you're getting your information. You're just as wrong as the article, about what the regulations are.
Kirk Righetti
Kirk Righetti
The hours would go up to 75 hours...it was part of bill
Manuel Ortega
Manuel Ortega
What did I get wrong please school me. What are the regulations in regards to hours of service? Thank you
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
Manuel Ortega, the hos you quoted have been suspended for about four years, the current hos don't require the two 1 to 5 time lines, and a driver can have as many 34 resets in a week as they want. Wasn't trying to say you were wrong just saying those hos were out dated.
Manuel Ortega
Manuel Ortega
Victor Collins I guess I wasn't very clear partly due to lack of punctuation, but you are correct the two required periods of between 1-5am were suspended a few years ago.
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
Thanks, all is good.
Manuel Ortega
Manuel Ortega
Another thing that has made a complete 180 degree turn is that about 5 years ago in order for you to take an off duty break you were required to have a signed authorization with you from your motor carrier, and now if you do not take a 30 minute off duty break before 8 hours on duty/driving combined you have commited a "serious violation"
Kirk Righetti
Kirk Righetti
Manuel Ortega the regulations are in force yet, it's part of the bill goin through the process right now...
Harold Bell
Harold Bell
They were inforce this is old news congress did this about year and half ago but it was inforce already
Michael Tillery
Michael Tillery
Some things are better left unsaid, why even discuss HOS that no longer exist?
Grant Knight
Grant Knight
Victor, mark is right
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
Grant Knight, who is mark? I don't see a Mark in this discussion!
Billy Hodge
Billy Hodge
Victor Collins I think he meant Kirk
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
Billy Hodge, thanks and all is still good.
Jason F Fletcher
Jason F Fletcher
Victor Collins - Manuel is correct about what he said
Jason F Fletcher
Jason F Fletcher
Victor Collins - they suspended those provisions about a year and a half to two years ago, only because they didnt follow the rule making procedure properly.
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
It appears that there is a hell of a lot of confusion on this conversation so I'll just keep doing what I know is legal. Hope all drivers have a good and safe day!
Randy Turner
Randy Turner
Jill claybrook can kiss my big fat white ass
Donna Oliver
Donna Oliver
Im a bookkeeper and this sounds confusing to me.
Debra Riggins Sherman
Debra Riggins Sherman
Victor Collins the former regs say in a 34 hr reset there has to be two time periods of 1am-5am. This was suspended last yr awaiting a final decision. Now it appears it will go away forever. The rule really stunk
Joshua Carlton
Joshua Carlton
Get rid of that damn 14 hour BULLSHIT. The clock should stop when we stop for whatever reason we stop whether it be to sit down & eat or stop at the rest area to drain the tank or take a big healthy. The nonstop clock is what's killing us. Then there's those backstabbing pos at the ATA. It ain't the American Trucking Association. It's more like the Anti Trucking Association. Y'all can take that speed limiter shit & shove it. The reason y'alls clients have A 250% or greater turnover is 2 reasons. 1. No driver wants to drive slowass equipment 2. No one like work in for Modern Day Fuckn Slavedrivers. It's a proven fact. A driver that's able to drive the speed limit or close to it, is a less fatigued driver than 1 that drives 8-10mph under the posted limit. I think some of these states need to but up on these companies. Tell em flatout, if the trucks don't run close to the limit, stay the hell out. I'm sure y'all older drivers remember back in the 90's when SWIFT ran 62 tops. Arizona threatened to tank their authority if they didn't raise em up. Now look, there's companies goin even slower, & having more accidents. SWIFT has exceeded 1500 accidents every year for the last 5 years, but their considered as a safe carrier even though they employ some of the dumbest people to ever find their fuckn way outta the birth canal.
Erick Painter
Erick Painter
If a driver drives 70 miles an hour there is now a long list of companies that run under that. I see their trailers and know you have to get over. You are dead on point though. And then let 2 62 mile an hour trucks try and pass for 5 to 10 miles and you get a long pack of vehicles antsy to pass.
Jason Haley
Jason Haley
Something needs to be done about applying OTR rules & laws to those of us who are home daily. A 14hr day is different when you have drive time, to & from work, plus the "challenges" of a wife, kids & home on a daily basis.
Joshua Carlton
Joshua Carlton
Research the 100 air mile radius. Local drivers fall into this category.
Jason Haley
Jason Haley
Joshua Carlton My route is way beyond that.
Don Tireman
Don Tireman
If you feel you can drive, drive. It's on you if you put your livelihood in jeopardy to get that extra hundred miles down the road, there are lots of lawyers hungry to squeeze every last dime out of your pocket, not to mention the one way trip to a lengthy stay in the slammer, just because you don't like the rules.
Tony Sr Ahlers
Tony Sr Ahlers
You sissy ass drivers that need somebody to tell you when to sleep and when to eat need to get out of our industry! We survived for 70 years doing it the right way the you lazy people got in the industry and cant handle the job. Now you want us all sissified.
Bob Beard
Bob Beard
Hate to tell ya Tony ... it was drivers that brought about the regulations ....
Jo LaRosa
Jo LaRosa
I hate the 30 minute break requirement. Caught in a snow storm just starting but had to stop for break before driving out of it. SUCKED
Sue Erb
Sue Erb
Can we get something in effect for bus drivers my company literally will have off at 1:07 and back on at 1:10 saying that is a 15 min break
John Smith
John Smith
Chris Spears needs to mind his own biscuits and life will be gravy. Ata regs should only be required by the members of the ata. Simple as that.
Edward John Steele
Edward John Steele
This is great news for the small companies and independent operator.. now do away with the e logs enforcement that is supposed to take effect beginning 2017... in addition think about doing away with $5,000 tax credit for every new driver big companies hire. They go through driver's like puppy mills go through dogs. They hire anybody most of the time they are the cause of big accidents witch the industry gets blamed for. Another good idea would be make the trucks from Canada and Mexico pay Federal Highway use tax like the rest of us have to
Mike Kemper
Mike Kemper
I see just as many smaller outfits and owner ops messing up so I wouldn't blame the bigger companies
Erick Painter
Erick Painter
^^^^^^^ coming frome a prime driver.
Tony Sr Ahlers
Tony Sr Ahlers
Mike Kemper a Prime steering wheel holder talking about idiots?????????
Bob Beard
Bob Beard
Tony is a super trucker better listen to him he knows it all drove it all and lies about it all ...
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
I'm looking for less hours but more money why aren't they fighting for ths
Dwayne Zimmerman
Dwayne Zimmerman
If u want more money go work for a company that pays better duh
Harold Bell
Harold Bell
You can't mk money with company because you mking it for them,buy you a truck and trl,mk your own money, I been doing it 20 yrs !
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
You must have not figured out an hourly rate against hours worked. 20 year owner op. You should be making as much as a doctor by now.
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
You must have not figured out an hourly rate against hours worked. 20 year owner op. You should be making as much as a doctor by now.
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
You must have not figured out an hourly rate against hours worked. 20 year owner op. You should be making as much as a doctor by now.
Taylor Reynolds
Taylor Reynolds
Some care about hourly pay , others care about weekly pay...
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
That's apples and oranges
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
That's apples and oranges
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
The reason for the e-logs and the stiff regulations is the old timers that were running in the '70's thru the early '80's. Where running more than one log book. And everyone knows it and about the pay by mile is antiquated. I've heard maybe 30 years ago most drivers were paid by the hour then politicians fixed that and possibly a national union to protect the drivers interests. But if we're considered to be professional drivers all professionals get paid some type of salary.
William Seifert
William Seifert
HAHAHAHA....its not gonna change the rates....still broke...HAHAHAHA
Victor Collins
Victor Collins
Congress has no say over the rates, you as the contract hauler has the say over the rates you are willing to take to haul the freight, so until you do something about the rates, the rates are not going to change.
Chris Currie
Chris Currie
As with anything too many middlemen suckin up profit !!!!!
Rick Lowe
Rick Lowe
What state requires additional rest hours for truck drivers? Federal law already supersedes state law
Jason F Fletcher
Jason F Fletcher
actually federal only supercedes state law if the state law is less stringent that federal. the more strict law takes precedent.
Josh Cronch
Josh Cronch
There's something California is trying to do with a rest break due to the states labor laws.. I'm not exactly sure as I've only heard about it once about 2 years ago.. they're trying to block CA from requiring us to abide by CA labor laws while working in the state
Jesse Testerman
Jesse Testerman
I think we are supposed to be a free country an these computer logs are against our freedoms an very dangerous to force a driver to stay in there seat 8 hours in order to provide for there families and yours
Phil Killerlain
Phil Killerlain
I wonder if the SAFETY Groups add the extra hours on purpose ? As now it's 75 ? When in real life it is 70 MAXIMUM !! But I guess 75 is better than the 82 they where trying to say before Congress last time when they stopped the 1 - 5 am stuff ! WHAT THE SAFETY GROUPS AND MOST THAT OPPOSE THE CURRENT HOURS FOR A RESET DO NOT UNDERSTAND IS YOU CAN WORK NO MORE HOURS EITHER WAY ! AS I beginning to believe that none of these people got past 1st grade math ! They do not SUBTRACT the 34 hours you take off if you us it more than once and if you do it twice you took off 68 hours in the week that they say you can work 75 ? THAT AND ALL THE 1 - 5 am does is make drivers who work the nightshift in eligible to use the reset with out basically taking 2 days off !
Grizzly Siemietkowski
Grizzly Siemietkowski
If you all were real truckers all these regulations wouldn't be needed the bozos created this mess now live with it
Harold Bell
Harold Bell
Company driver production scams created this,gov. Paying companies to hire immigrants and excons that's why we got the drivers today!!!
Randy McDonald
Randy McDonald
What the he'll is wrong with an ex con? I've paid my debt to society, why shouldn't I be able to do my job&no I get paid well
Buddy DuRand
Buddy DuRand
Randy McDonald. There is nothing wrong with that, if you do the job, you are fine, I respect that.
Tony Sr Ahlers
Tony Sr Ahlers
We didn't need all these rules till they deregulated the industry and the mega fleets started hiring all these wanna be cry babies that first started crying that 8 hours off each day wasn't enough. Then their boss actually wanted them to work. That's probably why you got into trucking cause your other job fired you cause you were lazy. I've made it 42 years driving like a human, sleep when I'm tired and drive when I'm not. When e logs come in ill go home and watch the industry fall on its knees.
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
Like normal jobs,I think we should be subject to the labor laws
Harold Bell
Harold Bell
Go get a regular job leave this to real truckers!!!!
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
What is the definition of a real trucker?
Taylor Reynolds
Taylor Reynolds
Not somebody who drives truck but wants a 9-5 schedule..
Robert W. Day II
Robert W. Day II
Who wants to work 14 hours a day and only get basically paid for maybe 10 at the most.
Erick Painter
Erick Painter
Then you want a teamsters job. Trucking was and is a lifestyle. I want to drive the way that suits me best. When I had a manufacturing job the longest shift I pulled was 23 and a half hours. My bosses fixed my time to work in the regulations. If you can't handle it now why regulate the rest of us who can?
Tony Sr Ahlers
Tony Sr Ahlers
Robert W. Day II a real truck driver is one that is in it as a way of life, not a job. You want someone holding your hand all day go to McDonalds! We got into it years ago for the freedom and all you nowadays steering wheel holders want all these new regulations so you don't have to work. I for one leave home to earn a living and get back home! If I was lazy I'd find a different lifestyle!
Rich Rolles
Rich Rolles
And this has nothing to do with Donald Trump LOL. The headline is misleading as usual
Buddy DuRand
Buddy DuRand
Amen brother.
Tony Hrpcha Jr.
Tony Hrpcha Jr.
The fucking pop-ups would be nice if they weren't there
Ben Jackson
Ben Jackson
Makes you a more efficient Slave is all,who knows when the next man is tired or not?
Roger Whitt
Roger Whitt
I am afraid when it's all said and done we will be working harder for the same money.
Michael Zinz
Michael Zinz
Need to do away with the 14 hr clock and let us nap when we want and not penalise us for it
Harold Bell
Harold Bell
Kirk that's not what they wanted mandated for,it power to control you,!!!!
Harold Bell
Harold Bell
Good to stop this now we need to be able to stop the clock when we are loading or unloading,and stop the black box bullcrap,then let truck and mk money!
Wayne Kimber
Wayne Kimber
From 4 pm on Friday to 8 am on Monday is 64 hours. Think about it.
Richard DeVore
Richard DeVore
I like how it says keep tired truckers off the road.
Tony Sr Ahlers
Tony Sr Ahlers
I wish Joan Claybrook would get a life. Her kid was parked on the shoulder and got hit! Truck drivers fault. If the truck had been on the shoulder and her kid would have hit him, it would have been the truck driver at fault. No win situation! She raised her kid to make bad choices so go back to Maine and eat potatoes and leave us alone.
Israel Arana
Israel Arana
Throw those useless rules out!
Buddy DuRand
Buddy DuRand
Money is the bottom line in any thing.
Charles Ray Kilgore
Charles Ray Kilgore
Fake story
Dan Slagle
Dan Slagle
What in the fuck did I just read????!!!!
Barry Boudreaux
Barry Boudreaux
I believe this to be fake.
Jeremy Harris
Jeremy Harris
Why not just do like the railroad and do 12 hours on 12 hours off
Shirley Dale High
Shirley Dale High
I hope they keep the 30 min rule.
Michael Kerby
Michael Kerby
Uhhh my balls itch
Robert Dykes
Robert Dykes
This is old news smh
Jesse Enriquez
Jesse Enriquez
Whos not ok w it ?
Al Reigert
Al Reigert
It's a joke anyway.
John Beckman
John Beckman
More rules don't make it safer
Larry Underdal
Larry Underdal
Fuck Joan Playbook.
Vernon Shepard
Vernon Shepard
Nothing like running out of ours in the middle of nowhere and having to sit there and wait till you can drive. Doesn't make you les tiered. If I go home I can drive a car from one side of the country to the other and back, get in my truck and be legal for 11 hours. The laws are wrong. Just leave the truck drivers alone, drop the regulations completely. All they need is a right to tell dispatch they are to tired to take the load.
Kevin Egly
Kevin Egly
The HOS rules we have now are detrimental to production and saftey. Drivers are constantly trying to work within a 14 hour window. The rules do not take into consideration weather, traffic delays, unreasonable waiting times at shippers and receivers, or break downs. I am 61 years old and have since a young man only required 3-5 hours of sleep. The rules force me to take 10 hrs off when I am not even tired. This industry has all sorts of load and delivery times that do not fit into a strict time window demanded by Federal rules. If I have a specific delivery time and there is a delay at shippers or receiver I still have to abide by a stupid federal law to try and get a load delivered in a window the federal government demands. I know when I am tired, I know when to rest, how well I am rested. Over and over I see federally mandated sleep hours put on truckers yet there are people on the road coming off double shifts, driving non stop across country , behind the wheel of motor homes pulling cars, , boats and what ever, yet they are given a free pass. As a driver, you can be doing everything right, and some numbskull tired, unskilled in his driving ability person can cause you to be in an accident and we are pulled through a knot hole of Federal regulations trying to prove your innocence The whole HOS needs to be trashed, and allow truckers more leeway as to when they sleep or drive. I have been driving since 1974, and commercially since 1976. I have had one accident in 1978 and zero tickets, wait two warnings going through podunk speed trap towns. I love this industry and hate to see some of the federal hogwash imposed on this industry. These new computers have made it all but impossible to stop and help other drivers because your running against a damn federally mandated clock! Federal over site is ruining this industry.
Chris Fagan
Chris Fagan
Drive 10 sleep 8 nap any time u want like it used to be
Kirk Righetti
Kirk Righetti
If you are worried bout ur company pressuring you to stay driving when you tired, leave the company. Second we need to do away with the mandated 30 minute break...it's annoying, and third...if your otr and need a ELD you shouldn't be out here. If you have to rely on technology to do your job, then you shouldn't be out here.
Erick Painter
Erick Painter
People can't say elogs don't affect parking either. Truckstops fill up earlier now.
Kirk Righetti
Kirk Righetti
Erick Painter its just the fact that seems drivers what these elogs and then have the 30 min break. Seems driversion don't know the industry or how to manage their time. I hate micro management and none of this will make the highways safer.
Taylor Reynolds
Taylor Reynolds
When I do the 30 minute break just sitting , my last three hours are the hardest... Before that rule I'd run out my eleven go eat walk then sleep well and do it the next day. 30 minute break is dangerous e logs, speedlimiters less parking equate to entrapment.
Taylor Reynolds
Taylor Reynolds
And all the laws on parking and everything else
Erick Painter
Erick Painter
I am in agreement. I think there is too many bullshit rules. I want to run according to the way I feel. The company I am with now I don't have to work hard to make my required amount. It took years to finally be happy.
Kirk Righetti
Kirk Righetti
Erick Painter most companies are only in business for their customers knowing that they will always have a pool of new drivers that don't know better. Finding a company that makes you happy is odd. Unless you become owner operator.
Ron Sherwood
Ron Sherwood
Where do they get these goofy hours, anyway? 34, 35, why not at least make it an even day and a half (36)? All of these regulations make it more difficult when dispatch asks if you have the hours to make the next load. In the old days it was, 'yep, no problem' or 'nope, not gonna make that'. The particulars were worked out later. Easy peasy.
Terry Perrott
Terry Perrott
Victor Collins, it's been 70 HRS not 75 & as far as the reset restart it's 34 conservative HRS not 35 .....
Software Scripts
Software Scripts
anyone love as much as me
Daniel Goble
Daniel Goble
Unfortunately it's probably just going to be more BS put out by congressmen who know nothing of the trucking industry Here's a common sense solution how about make Canadian law and US law the same give us a 36-hour restart here in America let us run 13 hours in a time that way Canadians don't get in trouble when they come down here and we don't get in trouble when we go to Canada Because currently if they're 12 hrs at the border and they cross the border into the United States they are in violation of our hours of service which is stupid But that is what happens when you have people making rules and regulations who know nothing of the trucking industry
Matt Jol
Matt Jol
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Rodger Brown
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